Phoenix Conrods

[Derek Sheldon]

Picking brains.
I made a stupid mistake when rebuilding my Hadley Crankshaft engine and ruined a 1 15/16” splash fed Conrod . 
To cut a long story short, I am unable to get a replacement.
Can I fit Phoenix rods as an alternative?. Can I get Phoenix rods with the 45 degree big end joint.

[Michael D]

Tony Betts (http://www.7ca.co.uk/index.htm ) has Hadley conrods be it in 1 1/2 inch..... but maybe he can be of help. If not make haste to order with Phoenix as they have manufacturing a batch of crankshafts and conrods planned for late this summer (I know as I've ordered a crankshaft with conrods for my Rosengart with Phoenix.....)

[Mark McKibbin]

Derek, if you meant 1 5/16" conrod I'm sure there are plenty of those around, someone here will have some spare I'm sure.

[Ian Williams]

Derek the answer to your questions is no. Tony or one of the other second hand dealers will no doubt have a big box of 1 5/16" splash rods, if your journals are std, you may even be able get a rod that has been metalled for an undersize crank, you can then bore it out to suit your's. I have successfully done just this on more than one occasion.

[Tony Betts]

Hi Derek,

All 1 5/16 cranks should all be machined to the same jernal width. So you can fit austin pheonix and HADLEY rods.

Same with the 1 1/2, only they are actually a metric jernal to take shells.

Pheonix do not make the 45% rods,

Here's the sad part, I used to make the 1 5/16 rods on 45%. But the profit margins were just to small. Making £50 a set pushes me to close to the vat level. Same as some of the other large items I'm looking at making, meen I have to stop doing some smaller items.

I'll have a word with mark at pheonix in a bit about rods, as he is dropping in on me latter to take about the next batch of crank and rods.

Tony

[Charles P]

I recall that John Barlow supplies newly manufactured 1" 5/16 rods. Can't recall if they are 45 degree but does that matter with the smaller big ends? 

C

[Geoff101]

I bought some new 1 5/16" rods from John. They are not 45 degree.

[Derek Sheldon]

Thanks for all the comments and help. It’s a bit like London buses , you wait for ages and two come along.!
I now have two 1 5/16” Hadley con rods so if you have one of the ten Hadley 1 5/16” splash fed cranks I have the only spare in existence and that will ever be.

[Ian Williams]

Well there you go Derek, I have learnt something, I had no idea that Hadley were making 1 5/16" split little end con rods!

[Ruairidh Dunford]

They are a joy to fit - much more sensible than others that do not fit down the bores.

As Derek suggests I also think these may well be the last we see unfortunately.  Ever hopeful however.