What have you done today with your Austin Seven

[Ruairidh Dunford]

I remember them well, on both cars, Dave.

[Tony Griffiths]

In case it's missed - because it's now deep inside the thread - I thought that I'd bring this fact to the front.
Yesterday, over lunch at the Red Lion pub in Litton at the regular Sheffield Group second Wednesday of the month meeting, Dave Mann shared with me some interesting facts about the 1931/32 Lucas Graves headlamps and the Bosch-type bulb fitting. The first version of these headlamps has a shallow reflector that precludes the fitting of the new 'projector' bulbs. Happily, the later version has a much deeper, parabolic-type reflector that does allow them to be fitted - though only by a fraction of an inch. The room inside the lamp is 3 inches - and the bulbs 2.875" long.
I hope that this information will be of use to the owners of cars fitted with these headlamps.
From ClassicCarLeds  and dynamoregulatorconversions these bulbs, in a variety of fittings to suit most Austin Sevens, are currently £28 each.

[Tony Griffiths]

Driving at night - from a newspaper.
We’ve all noticed it. The proliferation of excessively bright headlights is one of many slowly worsening situations on Britain’s roads, joining increasingly distracted and speeding drivers and the soaring rates of drug driving in threatening drivers, pedestrians and cyclists alike. 
It’s not exactly a scintillating dinner party conversation, and it ranks fairly low in the wider list of existential headwinds currently affecting British households, but it’s becoming a huge problem – nine out of 10 respondents to a recent RAC survey said that headlights are too bright, and about three quarters said they were regularly dazzled.
“Between 2013 and 2022, there was an average of six fatal collisions per year where bright or dazzling headlights were a contributory factor,” says Rod Dennis, public affairs officer at the RAC. “On average, there are around 280 collisions of different severity each year attributed, at least partially, to dazzling headlights.
“I’m not even sure that tells the whole story. The Government is obviously relying on these relatively low numbers, claiming that they don’t need to do any more work on it, but the data is two years out of date now and the strength of feeling among road users proves that this is a problem.”
Several factors are fuelling this dangerous phenomenon. Firstly, headlights are indeed getting a lot brighter, thanks to several successive “improvements” to bulb technology. From the flickering acetylene lamps of the early automobile, to the once-futuristic xenons and HIDs of the not-so-distant past, to the high-intensity LEDs and high-power laser lights of today, car headlamps have increased in brightness consistently for decades.

But almost as important is the prevailing shape and stature of cars today. In the 1990s, even as advanced headlight technology was making them brighter and clearer, most cars were roughly the same height. You’d be in your estate car and a hatchback would come the other way, with headlights approximately corresponding with each other. Nowadays, every other car is effectively a truck, with headlights at or above waist height. 
Thirdly, nobody really knows what they’re doing with their cars anymore. British motorists may want the fastest, biggest, most imposing cars, but would baulk at the prospect of doing any actual work to them. As such, your common or garden BMW driver probably has no idea how or why he would adjust his headlights to prevent them blinding oncoming traffic.

Advertisement1 se“LED headlights are here to stay,” says Rod. “That’s not about to change. But technology moves, and regulation is supposed to move with it. As a driver, particularly in rural areas, you’re going to get a better view of the road and be safer if your headlights are bright and illuminate more of the road ahead.

“But the people benefiting from this technology might be causing safety problems for other people, which is why we need more research not just into brightness but also alignment and the other factors that cause people to be dazzled. Some people say we should ban LEDs, others say it’s about alignment. We need more data and more research.”

There’s another issue which I’ve noted in my role as a road tester. Automatically dimming headlights, which first appeared on high-end models almost a decade ago but which are now relatively prevalent across all market sectors, simply do not work. They didn’t to begin with, and while they might have improved a tad, they still don’t function correctly now. That is to say, they fail to adequately anticipate oncoming cars, and wait until another vehicle’s lights are in view before dimming – by which point the other driver has already been dazzled. 
That’s if they work at all. In cars I’ve been testing, automatically dimming headlight systems have routinely ignored oncoming vehicles, and have no way to detect pedestrians or poorly lit cyclists. Adoption of this new technology has comfortably outpaced its performance.
“I’ve driven cars with this system and it’s far from perfect,” says Rod. “It varies by manufacturer. It’s vital that drivers know how to manually adjust their main beam.
“As cars do more for us now, there’s an extent to which we become reliant on that technology, and when it doesn’t behave as we expect it to sometimes we think that doing these small tasks, like engaging and disengaging the main beam, maybe doesn’t feel like our job anymore.”
 Car manufacturers are commercially compelled to keep up with the Joneses. Omitting new technology from their product puts them at a competitive disadvantage, even if that new technology is functionally useless to the majority of their customers. Most Land Rover owners will never need a 3.5tonne towing capacity or a 90cm wading depth; few Bentley Continental owners will ever approach its 208mph top speed. 
Similarly, the ability of a new BMW to illuminate half a mile of Bavarian wilderness is largely irrelevant to owners who live within the M25, but that hasn’t stopped BMW from installing high-power laser lights which it claims will do precisely that.
“I’ve noticed it from around 2009 onwards,” says Daniel Hardiman McCartney, a practicing optometrist and clinical advisor to the Royal College of Optometrists. “But significantly over the past three years or so.
“I work in Suffolk, where the roads are long and straight and where a lot of people drive 4x4s,” explains Daniel. “I get people in-clinic who are increasingly worried about headlights and driving at night.
“It’s affecting people’s independence. We’re seeing people who aren’t particularly old – 60 or 70 – who just don’t drive after 6pm.”
The timeframe Daniel describes broadly corresponds with my own experience, as well as the anecdotal reports of other motorists and – crucially – the popularisation of high-intensity headlight technology. The Royal College of Optometrists knows that this is an issue, has published articles in its journal and commissions academics to research into what is quite a complicated issue, but Daniel says there’s a paucity of data and that experts need to learn more before regulations can catch up. Crucially, though, there’s a behavioural aspect that probably can’t be explained using watts and lumens alone. 
“This morning I did the school run and I was flabbergasted at how many people still had frost on their windscreens,” says Daniel. “How can you possibly see clearly when you haven’t taken the time to clear ice from your car?”
Proposed changes to the way headlights are designed could filter through onto our roads by 2027, subject to ongoing deliberations by policy experts at the United Nations. Changing people’s inconsiderate or unsafe behaviour may not be as straightforward. It’s clear that this dangerous, unpleasant phenomenon will be a feature of our roads for a number of years to come; for now, car manufacturers are locked in a headlight brightness arms race, and regulators are turning a blind eye.

You raise a good point Tony.
I rarely drive at night in the Sevens these days, not because I cannot see, more that I fear not being seen.
Rear lights on a Seven are closer together than a modern, this makes the car appear further away from behind.  I love driving A7s but my Volvo is my car of choice, at night.

[Ivor Hawkins]

Being dazzled at night by modern lights has resulted in me having to almost come to a halt while the modern drives by, these super bright lights are a real danger and self dipping systems cannot pre-empt oncoming traffic.

I’m having a serious re-think about whether or not to fit LED headlamp bulbs to the Seven, I think I’ll research alternatives first.

[austin]

Made all the worse by driving a low car, my everyday car is a rather dishevelled Porsche Boxster, probably a lower seating position than an Ulster. Driving at night is an absolute nightmare. Yellow tinted glasses help, but don't completely take the burning of eyeballs away.

[andrew34ruby]

Driving at night - from a newspaper.

“It’s affecting people’s independence. We’re seeing people who aren’t particularly old – 60 or 70 – who just don’t drive after 6pm.”

I fit into that category, but nothing to do with lights. Where would I be going at that time of day? If asked, no I don't drive in the dark, but it's because I can't enjoy the countryside views, and haven't bothered with pubs since covid.

[Dave Mann]

That's interesting Tony, I've noticed that I haven't had to use my rear window blind when driving the Seven at night for the last couple of years because modern car headlights don't turn the windscreen into a mirror. Having said that Sue won't drive at night saying all the lights dazzle her, I have a pair of clip on Polaroid anti glare glasses which cut out any dazzle but I haven't needed them for a few years.
On my return home from the Red Lion down long hill about 3 moderns went flying past me, however by Newtown I'd caught them up. Whilst the transit van behind me took the short cut over the hills from Whalley Bridge to Disley, not a good Seven route with all it's speed humps and only quicker if there are roadworks on the A6. I gave him a wave when he pulled up behind me at the traffic lights on the A555.

[Mike Costigan]

I would agree that modern headlamps are a major problem, but another is daylight running lights - they are usually fine on a dead-level road, but any undulation (or pothole!) can produce a sudden intense dazzle which tends to be worse because it isn't anticipated. At least with headlamps at night you can see the potential problem approaching and take appropriate action.

[Alan]

It’s not just lights, modern cars are packed full of features we never use but pay for anyway. I’ve worked in the high end of the car industry all my life and have come to the conclusion that there has to be a major change in the design philosophy. We may not realise it but what we need are cars that are simpler, cheaper and which last a lot longer. The idea that a 100year old petrol car is a lot greener than an 8year old electric one isn’t a joke. However to counteract that Tony I have to confess I have vmaxed a Bentley GT but not on a public road.

[Dave Mann]

Car manufacturers have introduced all the complication so that when your modern motor has a fault you have to take it to the main dealer. A friend couldn't release the steering lock or handbrake on his 12 year old Range Rover, the RAC couldn't help, it was dragged onto a recovery truck to join 40 others at a specialist garage. The touch screen control had failed and it is obsolete with no replacement available so vehicle is awaiting scrapping. This goes for everything today, have a look in your recycling center it's full of new stuff. It's why all the climate change policies won't work.