Diktat from MUK

[Terrytuned]

I have just received my MUK speed licence renewal in the post with a lot of booklets but cannot find why like Steve the same licence costs over £50 more may be some thing to do with the self promotion and investment strategy booklets and change of names.  Terry.

[Peter Johnson]

Also, as they have changed all of the licence classifications, I don’t know what I need for next year. I currently hold a non race national B. Is this the same as an inter-club? Would be nice to see some guidance.

Peter

[Steve Jones]

It should tell you on the inside front page of the application form, Peter. The document with the letter on the front page. Looking at mine there's a box titled 'Your changes for 2020 onwards' and then it states what my 2019 licence was and what that changes to for 2020.

Steve

[Peter Johnson]

Thanks Steve. I haven’t received the pack yet. Just trying to figure things out from their website.

Peter

[Ian Motley]

Steve, I am surprised in the UK that there has't been a peak body of Motorsport with affiliated Car Clubs as members with the Peak Body affiliated with the FIA. Here in Australia a body known as "The Confederation of Australian Motorsport (CAMS), has been in Australia since 1952? The Austin 7 Club in South Australia and The Austin 7 Club in Victoria are just two of the initial Clubs from around Australia to join. Previous the Automobile Clubs in each State controlled Motorsport, also affiliated with FIA. All Affiliated clubs apply to CAMS for a permit to run an event whether it be a Motorkhana, Staight Line Sprint ,Hillclimb, Circuit Sprint, Road Trials, Mud Sprints, Observed Section Trials, Road Rallies,  Rally Navigators, and Superkarts. The Competitors must have a CAMS Competition Licence which range from $70 to $500 and there are 22 different Licences. I think you get the picture that beauracarts are just around the corner and now CAMS are going to change there name to MOTOR SPORT AUSTRALIA on the 1st. January 2020. CAMS claim to have 27,000 active Licence holders, 11,000 Licenced  Officials and 600 Affiliated Clubs n Australia.

[Tony Press]

MA vs MUK - a better acronym ?

[Mike Costigan]

 ... and now CAMS are going to change there name to MOTOR SPORT AUSTRALIA on the 1st. January 2020. 

The MSA lives on!

[Paul N-M]

Terry,
The MSA was simply out of touch with the way NGB's opperate in the 21st century. Nothing was being done to address the significant threats to our sport on the horizon and in some cases already in our back garden.
The MSA was in essence only functioning as a regulatory body/rule maker and an issuer of licences.
A route and branch re think was required. Hugh Chambers (CEO) has lead this most effectively resulting in many changes in personnel and attitudes at HQ.
The resultant development plan and the reasoning behind it are well explained in the documents recently sent out with licence renewals. As referred to elsewhere the changes that effect your individual licence type are clearly explained on the renewal form. All people need to do is read it!
Yes, often reorganisation on this scale can seem like beaurocrasy gone mad, but if motorsport is to be sustained let alone grow in the UK, and world wide, it needs to be fit for purpose and that involves financial investment at all levels especially in development and support for clubs and volunteers.
So all please dont knock it, give it a chance.
And before any one suggests I don't know what I'm talking about and have been suckered by all the fancy literature. I have been involved for many years with sports NGB's at board level. I know the challenges and I know that MSUK is late to the table!

Paul N-M

[Nick Salmon]

Hi Paul. You seem well informed on this. Are you involved directly with MUK?

My question is this - At the grass root level of Austin 7 Production Car trialling where I might ask a friend to be one-off bouncer at a particular event, what benefit is there to me, them, or the organisers, in having to fill out a licencing form that requires nothing by way of test/check/medical etc? 

(p.s. I have read the 2018 Group Accounts for the RAC Motorsports Association Limited (now MUK) containing their strategy plan and it reinforces my present view that the new licence requirement is there to achieve the commercial goals of the company.)

[Alan]

They may well be late to the table, but the way they are rolling this out smacks of dishonesty. As for give it a chance - it’s going to cost me an extra 60 quid for my licence next year, and the perceivable benefit is what exactly?