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Upgrades and improvements for longevity
#11
And yet wasn't that what finished it Ruairidh? I last saw the film at least a decade ago but I believe they lashed the block down with a half-shaft and brake cables in the end

That's not to say it wasn't a good mod - only that one way or another a Seven block and crankcase will find a way to separate given time.
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#12
No idea Chris, I only have experience of using the cap screws.

R
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#13
The engine in my chummy is built up with studs in the crankcase. Also on the nosecone and dynamo etc. I think it works well except perhaps the long dynamo stud which seems very prone when the dynamo is off.

The spreader plate is an excellent addition. Perhaps a slight mod for those who want an original looking sump with the stiffness of the cast ali sumps would be to profile cut a thicker spreader plate, cut off the pressed bit of the steel sump and weld the thicker one on.

Much as I liked the extra oil and stiffness of the ali sump on my special, I suspect that removing an engine with one fitted in a unmolested Austin bodied car would be impossible (or very difficult) without removing the sump first.

Ruairidh, I guess the seven workshop gaskets are quite hard silicone? So they don't compress a huge amount? If so I shall have to enquire as to the maker. I have use for such a material soon.
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#14
The semi deep cast sumps I mention above are designed to overcome the issue with the full deep dumps you highlight Hedd - they certainly do not need to be removed to extract the engine.

The gaskets work, cannot comment on how squishy they are without some sort of comparison.
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#15
How much do they squish versus their original thickness.

To 50% of their original thickness? more? or less?.

As measured roughly using mk1 eyeball would provide sufficient info for me
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#16
(05-10-2018, 07:27 AM)Ruairidh Dunford Wrote: I am currently using these successfully...

what is the part number Ruairidh ? I don't see it listed on line.
Thanks,
Stephen
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#17
I suggest you contact Jamie direct as these are not yet on the website.
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#18
I have a shallow aluminium sump on my car. I gave up with the tin ones as all mine had, or quickly developed, pin holes. The aluminium ones seal with no problems and also improve the rigidity of the crankcase.
I don't use a gasket but stick it on with ThreeBond 1184. This holds very tightly and further improves the rigidity.
I use ThreeBond 1184, again with no gasket, for the block to crankcase. I am of the opinion that having as rigid a joint here as possible reduces the chance of the block coming loose. Even a very small movement on the joint increases the forces on the studs dramatically.
A friend was helping Chris Gould's 10000 mile record attempt and told me about the block being held down with a brake cable.
Jim
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#19
(05-10-2018, 05:46 PM)AustinWood Wrote: I have a shallow aluminium sump on my car. I gave up with the tin ones as all mine had, or quickly developed, pin holes. The aluminium ones seal with no problems and also improve the rigidity of the crankcase.
I don't use a gasket but stick it on with ThreeBond 1184. This holds very tightly and further improves the rigidity.
I use ThreeBond 1184, again with no gasket, for the block to crankcase. I am of the opinion that having as rigid a joint here as possible reduces the chance of the block coming loose. Even a very small movement on the joint increases the forces on the studs dramatically.
A friend was helping Chris Gould's 10000 mile record attempt and told me about the block being held down with a brake cable.
Reading the technical bulletin for TB1184 it sounds ideal. How do you find disassembly? The bulletin does not mention this.
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#20
(05-10-2018, 02:48 PM)Hedd_Jones Wrote: How much do they squish versus their original thickness.

To 50% of their original thickness? more? or less?.

As measured roughly using mk1 eyeball would provide sufficient info for me

I would say less than 50% by a way.

Colin, I have used the three bond compound that Jim mentions and it is very good but a real begger to clean up 'if' you have to remove it (which I am sure we hope never to have to do), the silicone gasket I picture above comes apart easily and can be reused.
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