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Mystery Noise
#1
As many of you will know, I have recently  had a rebore with new pistons and a general top end overhaul, mainly to cure what I thought was a little end rattle. coming back from Wrexham last Tuesday, and after about 250 miles running, the noise started again. 

To explain, although I recognise that it is notoriously difficult to  diagnose a noise that one hasn't heard, it sounds exactly like a tin butterfly trapped inside the engine that is most apparent on light throttle and on the change from run to overrun - exactly where one would expect a big end noise to be but (at least to my ears) lighter than I would expect.

Accordingly, today I took the sump off and carefully checked that all was well inside. Removing the sump and gauze showed no sign of debris. Indeed they were as clean as when I assembled the engine. I checked that the gudgeon pin pinch bolts were tight and then dismantled the big ends in turn. The bearing surfaces were smooth with no signs of scoring or metal flaking. All the bearings seemed to be well covered in oil. I checked the crank pins. All were round to within 3 thou and, again showed no signs of scoring or discernible wear. I then checked the radial clearances and found all of them to be less than 2 thou. I reassembled the bottom end most carefully, making sure that the oil passages in the crank were clear and that both oil jets were unobstructed. (Not that I thought they were, as the oil pressure is about 3 lbs at 30 mph hot, but its best to check). I made sure that the bearing caps were the right way round (they are all marked anyway) and that the big end bolts were correctly seated and the nuts done up to 20 ft lbs torque. I checked everything several times, just in case I had missed anything, as all seemed to be as it should. 

I have just got back from a 20 mile test run and my tin butterfly is still there when the engine is up to temperature. Oil pressure is just off the stop on tickover and about 3 lbs at 30 mph hot.

What have I missed?
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#2
I would be looking at the carburettor setting.
Although I found a similar noise due to a rotor arm.
Good luck
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#3
Hi David

That is infuriating. Having done all that work but still not found the cure. As you say without actually hearing the noise ‘in the flesh’ it’s really difficult to analyse. However here are a couple of thoughts…

Check the dynamo pulley is not loose, longitudinal movement can cause a fluttering noise. Ditto if the camshaft end float is high.

As a last resort…..earplugs!

Cheers

Howard
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#4
Something sticking/broken in the valve gear?
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#5
Thank you gentlemen for your suggestions.

Tiger: Carburation seems to be fine. The engine pulls cleanly with no sign of hesitation and the tickover is even and about 500 rpm hot.

Howard: I hadn't thought of the fan pulley. That is an easy check - just remove the fanbelt. I might try that today. Camshaft endfloat is more problematical as it requires stripping the front of the engine, but Heigh Ho.

Simon: I had the valves out to regrind them and fit new exhaust valves. All appeared to be in order when reassembled, but I can check again. Simply take the tappet cover off and look. Again, I shall try that today.
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#6
When you remove the fan belt you can check the end float in the camshaft by grasping the bottom pulley and rotating it back and forward - any large forward and backward movement will be obvious.
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#7
Thank you Ruairidh. Never thought of that. Obvious when one thinks about it.
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#8
In accordance with all the suggestions, I removed the fanbelt, and tried turning the camshaft pulley. There is no appreciable movement there, so I assume that the camshaft has very little endfloat. Also checked the rotor arm, but that was secure and tight on its shaft. Had  look in the tappet chest and all appeared to be as it should. Tried the car out, covering about 25 miles in total (see my post in the Drive It Day thread). My metal lepidoptera is still there,  but the engine was a little quieter without the fan running. I have reinstalled the fanbelt with a note to myself to overhaul the fan at some time in the future, although I found that, with the belt only just tight enough to drive the belt to noise from the fan is less apparent.

The car is generally running very well, and my recent investigations reveal nothing seeming to be amiss. The noise does not appear to be getting worse so perhaps I should stop worrying and drive the car until it does.

Once again, thank you all for the suggestions and comments.
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