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The real cost of EVs
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(27-07-2023, 11:29 AM)Howard Wright Wrote:
(27-07-2023, 10:41 AM)Austin in the Shed Wrote:
(26-07-2023, 07:41 PM)phillips Wrote: Hi all, if you want wind farms, well, come to Wales we have forest's of them. They look and are rubbish.S&P

And a blanket 20 mph speed limit from September? Is that true ?
You won’t even get a 7 out of second gear.

Hi Austin

No the 20 mph applies to ‘restricted’ roads only.  Generally these are now 30mph limits in built up ares.

https://www.gov.wales/introducing-defaul...eed-limits

If it saves just one child’s life I’m all for it!

Cheers

Howard

(27-07-2023, 09:38 PM)andrew34ruby Wrote:
(27-07-2023, 02:38 PM)Reckless Rat Wrote: A " blanket" 20mph is something dreamed up by someone who has never been involved in enforcement issues. It is incapable of being policed. A realistic 20mph zone is somewhere it is physically impossible to go faster ( because the environment makes people slow down, for example, speed bumps, chicanes, narrowing etc.). Just saying it is so won't make people comply. It is unworkable, but typical of current thinking.

"incapable of being policed"  but the present 30 limits are rarely policed. This means that traffic wizzes around at 38 and more, but an unlucky few get penalised. As for speed bumps and narrowing... please no.

I often drive in town at around 20 (in a modern car) and the traffic behind doesn't seem to notice.


There must be better ways than speed bumps. How about traffic lights that favour the road with slower traffic?
In Switzerland, I've noticed the odd stretch of road where, if you stick to the limit the lights are in your favour. But, even at 3 am, if you exceed it the lights turn red. Might, I suppose, be common elsewhere but I've never encountered it.
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The real cost of EVs - by Nick Salmon - 03-06-2023, 08:57 AM
RE: The real cost of EVs - by Steve kay - 03-06-2023, 09:39 AM
RE: The real cost of EVs - by andrew34ruby - 03-06-2023, 10:51 AM
RE: The real cost of EVs - by Barry Townsend - 03-06-2023, 11:16 AM
RE: The real cost of EVs - by Howard Wright - 03-06-2023, 11:34 AM
RE: The real cost of EVs - by Reckless Rat - 03-06-2023, 12:22 PM
RE: The real cost of EVs - by David Stepney - 03-06-2023, 01:02 PM
RE: The real cost of EVs - by Mike Costigan - 03-06-2023, 01:28 PM
RE: The real cost of EVs - by Alan - 03-06-2023, 01:44 PM
RE: The real cost of EVs - by Ray White - 03-06-2023, 11:50 PM
RE: The real cost of EVs - by Dave Mann - 04-06-2023, 09:10 AM
RE: The real cost of EVs - by Ivor Hawkins - 04-06-2023, 11:06 AM
RE: The real cost of EVs - by Duncan Grimmond - 04-06-2023, 11:06 AM
RE: The real cost of EVs - by Reckless Rat - 04-06-2023, 11:09 AM
RE: The real cost of EVs - by Ivor Hawkins - 04-06-2023, 11:57 AM
RE: The real cost of EVs - by Reckless Rat - 04-06-2023, 12:00 PM
RE: The real cost of EVs - by Howard Wright - 04-06-2023, 04:21 PM
RE: The real cost of EVs - by Charles P - 04-06-2023, 07:23 PM
RE: The real cost of EVs - by Austin in the Shed - 05-06-2023, 08:16 PM
RE: The real cost of EVs - by Austin in the Shed - 08-06-2023, 11:46 AM
RE: The real cost of EVs - by Tony Press - 08-06-2023, 11:04 PM
RE: The real cost of EVs - by Bob Olive - 09-06-2023, 08:14 AM
RE: The real cost of EVs - by Hugh Barnes - 09-06-2023, 08:21 AM
RE: The real cost of EVs - by Steve kay - 09-06-2023, 08:50 AM
RE: The real cost of EVs - by Barry Townsend - 09-06-2023, 09:19 AM
RE: The real cost of EVs - by Austin in the Shed - 09-06-2023, 10:24 AM
RE: The real cost of EVs - by andrew34ruby - 09-06-2023, 10:42 AM
RE: The real cost of EVs - by Dave Mann - 10-06-2023, 09:27 AM
RE: The real cost of EVs - by Hugh Barnes - 10-06-2023, 09:34 AM
RE: The real cost of EVs - by David.H - 10-06-2023, 10:02 AM
RE: The real cost of EVs - by Barry Townsend - 10-06-2023, 10:13 AM
RE: The real cost of EVs - by Steve Clare - 10-06-2023, 03:33 PM
RE: The real cost of EVs - by Dave Mann - 10-06-2023, 08:24 PM
RE: The real cost of EVs - by Nick Salmon - 10-06-2023, 08:35 PM
RE: The real cost of EVs - by Dave Mann - 11-06-2023, 09:54 AM
RE: The real cost of EVs - by Nick Salmon - 11-06-2023, 12:56 PM
RE: The real cost of EVs - by Barry Townsend - 11-06-2023, 05:24 PM
RE: The real cost of EVs - by Andy Bennett - 11-06-2023, 08:33 PM
RE: The real cost of EVs - by dickie65 - 13-06-2023, 08:42 PM
RE: The real cost of EVs - by David Stepney - 13-06-2023, 09:05 PM
RE: The real cost of EVs - by Andy Bennett - 14-06-2023, 01:50 PM
RE: The real cost of EVs - by Steve Jones - 14-06-2023, 03:20 PM
RE: The real cost of EVs - by Steve kay - 14-06-2023, 03:46 PM
RE: The real cost of EVs - by Steve Jones - 14-06-2023, 05:39 PM
RE: The real cost of EVs - by Duncan Grimmond - 14-06-2023, 06:06 PM
RE: The real cost of EVs - by Reckless Rat - 14-06-2023, 06:15 PM
RE: The real cost of EVs - by Steve Jones - 14-06-2023, 06:57 PM
RE: The real cost of EVs - by Mike Costigan - 26-07-2023, 05:08 PM
RE: The real cost of EVs - by Dave Mann - 26-07-2023, 05:43 PM
RE: The real cost of EVs - by Tony Griffiths - 26-07-2023, 06:25 PM
RE: The real cost of EVs - by phillips - 26-07-2023, 07:41 PM
RE: The real cost of EVs - by Ivor Hawkins - 26-07-2023, 08:16 PM
RE: The real cost of EVs - by Jamie - 27-07-2023, 08:02 AM
RE: The real cost of EVs - by Andy Bennett - 27-07-2023, 08:17 AM
RE: The real cost of EVs - by Ivor Hawkins - 27-07-2023, 09:03 AM
RE: The real cost of EVs - by Austin in the Shed - 27-07-2023, 10:41 AM
RE: The real cost of EVs - by Howard Wright - 27-07-2023, 11:29 AM
RE: The real cost of EVs - by Reckless Rat - 27-07-2023, 02:38 PM
RE: The real cost of EVs - by Andy Bennett - 27-07-2023, 06:36 PM
RE: The real cost of EVs - by Dave Mann - 27-07-2023, 09:00 PM
RE: The real cost of EVs - by andrew34ruby - 27-07-2023, 09:38 PM
RE: The real cost of EVs - by Andy Bennett - 27-07-2023, 10:35 PM
RE: The real cost of EVs - by Austin in the Shed - 27-07-2023, 10:57 PM
RE: The real cost of EVs - by Andy Bennett - 28-07-2023, 08:17 AM
RE: The real cost of EVs - by goodwoodweirdo - 28-07-2023, 09:10 AM
RE: The real cost of EVs - by Dave Mann - 28-07-2023, 10:12 AM
RE: The real cost of EVs - by austin - 28-07-2023, 10:56 AM
RE: The real cost of EVs - by Austin in the Shed - 28-07-2023, 10:56 PM
RE: The real cost of EVs - by andrew34ruby - 29-07-2023, 08:30 AM
RE: The real cost of EVs - by Austin in the Shed - 29-07-2023, 12:25 PM
RE: The real cost of EVs - by Dave Mann - 29-07-2023, 09:14 PM
RE: The real cost of EVs - by andrew34ruby - 30-07-2023, 08:18 AM
RE: The real cost of EVs - by Tony Griffiths - 30-07-2023, 10:21 AM
RE: The real cost of EVs - by Dave Mann - 30-07-2023, 09:18 PM
RE: The real cost of EVs - by Tony Griffiths - 31-07-2023, 02:18 PM

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