25-02-2018, 12:01 PM
(This post was last modified: 25-02-2018, 12:05 PM by Stuart Giles.
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Hi Dennis,
An issue of nomenclature as you say. When working on this stuff in the past, these were always referred to as Rose joints
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Where as this type of thing would be referred to as a rod end
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Being absolutely correct only joints manufactured by Rose Brothers should be called Rose Joints in the same way as anyone vacuuming the carpet with a device made by Electrolux or some other manufacturer shouldn't say that they're doing the hoovering.
BTW, regarding the use of these on road cars, I converted most of the suspension and steering on my road/competition A7 special in the early '80s. I have only recently changed those joints out due to them having some movement. There is an enormous range of qualities of these joints, the cheaper ones tend to be metal to metal, where road grit will cause a lot of wear. I used joints with an integral Teflon/Kevlar (IIRC) interliner between the ball and joint body. These have stood up well to what must add up to considerable road mileage over the years.
(24-02-2018, 08:16 PM)Dennis Nicholas Wrote:(22-02-2018, 12:53 PM)Stuart Giles Wrote: Presume when you say Rose Joints , you mean Rod Ends -Rose Joints are something slightly different.
Stuart....Thanks for the references.
Nomenclature ....I was going by what Wiki and several other sites called them. What is the difference Rod end to Rose Joint?
Hi Dennis,
An issue of nomenclature as you say. When working on this stuff in the past, these were always referred to as Rose joints
Where as this type of thing would be referred to as a rod end
Being absolutely correct only joints manufactured by Rose Brothers should be called Rose Joints in the same way as anyone vacuuming the carpet with a device made by Electrolux or some other manufacturer shouldn't say that they're doing the hoovering.
BTW, regarding the use of these on road cars, I converted most of the suspension and steering on my road/competition A7 special in the early '80s. I have only recently changed those joints out due to them having some movement. There is an enormous range of qualities of these joints, the cheaper ones tend to be metal to metal, where road grit will cause a lot of wear. I used joints with an integral Teflon/Kevlar (IIRC) interliner between the ball and joint body. These have stood up well to what must add up to considerable road mileage over the years.