03-08-2021, 11:23 PM
Hi Ian, I thought the guy in AK wasn't doing it now? I thought he was one of the causalities of the massive tightening up by LTNZ a few years ago after the damning report came out on them. The problem isn't around be honest with what I have done in terms of modifications. It hasn't even got to the point yet where anyone has asked me what I have done apart from knowing it's a new body. It's around the paperwork and if you are even allowed to get it into the system.
I am still trying to understand the rules because as far as I can tell they aren't clearly set out anywhere and everyone you ask has a different opinion on what they are. To get a car with no papers back on the road you need to have a VIN number. To get that you have to apply to LTNZ via the CA03 form. That is where you need to prove you own the car and what it is (and pay then $184 an hour to look into it for you). This is where the VCC documents are meant to help I think.
A testing station won't even look at the car until that has been approved and has a VIN. With a VIN then you can then take the car to get the compliance done. Because my forms say there are modifications that affect a safety standard it has to go to the LVVTA. It's all very well to say talk to the RIGHT people. That was from talking to the VCC who issue the forms. How they determine how to fill in the forms is a mystery apparently. I guess it comes down to the definition, group and category they put the car in. Those are well defined. How they decide if the mods affect the safety standards I don't know, they don't explain that. The document is here: http://vcc.org.nz/wp-content/uploads/202..._11_20.pdf
My car is classified as a B5 PSG1.
Once the forms arrive from the VCC I can see if it does need LVVTA in which case I will ring their technical people to talk to them. Again it comes down to finding the right person but how do you do that? It's one reason I am posting here. Can someone direct me to a certifier who knows pre-war cars?
What paper work did the guys in Auckland with the A7 specials have already? Were they unregistered cars to start with? Do they have VICs and what categories are they under?
Simon
I am still trying to understand the rules because as far as I can tell they aren't clearly set out anywhere and everyone you ask has a different opinion on what they are. To get a car with no papers back on the road you need to have a VIN number. To get that you have to apply to LTNZ via the CA03 form. That is where you need to prove you own the car and what it is (and pay then $184 an hour to look into it for you). This is where the VCC documents are meant to help I think.
A testing station won't even look at the car until that has been approved and has a VIN. With a VIN then you can then take the car to get the compliance done. Because my forms say there are modifications that affect a safety standard it has to go to the LVVTA. It's all very well to say talk to the RIGHT people. That was from talking to the VCC who issue the forms. How they determine how to fill in the forms is a mystery apparently. I guess it comes down to the definition, group and category they put the car in. Those are well defined. How they decide if the mods affect the safety standards I don't know, they don't explain that. The document is here: http://vcc.org.nz/wp-content/uploads/202..._11_20.pdf
My car is classified as a B5 PSG1.
Once the forms arrive from the VCC I can see if it does need LVVTA in which case I will ring their technical people to talk to them. Again it comes down to finding the right person but how do you do that? It's one reason I am posting here. Can someone direct me to a certifier who knows pre-war cars?
What paper work did the guys in Auckland with the A7 specials have already? Were they unregistered cars to start with? Do they have VICs and what categories are they under?
Simon