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Query about gearing...
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Presumably rolling resistance includes all driveline and tyre and idle axle drag losses. With a streamlined heavy modern with wide tyres at 50 mph, rolling resistance presumably dominates. An early fwd Ford Escort at 50 mph was reckoned to need 8 hp "'at wheels." I suppose this means as a rolling road and not at hub so most of would be to counter wind. I presume a laden unstreamlined Seven saloon would need at least as much, so with about 12 flywheel bhp at 50 mph wind loss possibly about matches or somewhat exceeds rolling losses, and increases dramatically with more speed.
One passenger adds about 10% weight absorbing about 10% of rolling resistance power. But a 10% loss of speed would release 30% of power formerly absorbed by the wind, As the two commencing powers around 50 mph are probably vaguely equal speed reduces far less than 7%. I am too senile to solve the exact reduction.

Nevertheless it is surprising how little degradation will reduce a stock lc saloon to about 45 mph as per many original road tests. My RP when running the lc head used to recover about 4 mph from just removing carbon, a considerable gain in bhp.

Back to the original question, a fair idea of engine freedom is available from the crank handle, esp with plugs out.

Altered to ereflect weight of modern passenger
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Query about gearing... - by Duncan Grimmond - 05-09-2020, 09:30 AM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Nick Turley - 05-09-2020, 09:57 AM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Duncan Grimmond - 05-09-2020, 10:06 AM
RE: Query about gearing... - by dickie65 - 05-09-2020, 10:14 AM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Malcolm Parker - 05-09-2020, 10:40 AM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Chris KC - 05-09-2020, 10:42 AM
RE: Query about gearing... - by JonE - 05-09-2020, 11:30 AM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Steve kay - 05-09-2020, 09:24 PM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Bob Culver - 05-09-2020, 11:33 PM
RE: Query about gearing... - by andrew34ruby - 05-09-2020, 11:36 PM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Tony Betts - 06-09-2020, 02:16 AM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Chris Garner - 06-09-2020, 07:55 AM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Dave Mann - 06-09-2020, 08:50 AM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Mike Costigan - 06-09-2020, 09:03 AM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Alan - 06-09-2020, 10:38 AM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Stuart Giles - 06-09-2020, 10:41 AM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Duncan Grimmond - 06-09-2020, 10:59 AM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Steve Jones - 06-09-2020, 11:33 AM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Duncan Grimmond - 06-09-2020, 01:51 PM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Howard Wright - 06-09-2020, 02:04 PM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Stuart Giles - 06-09-2020, 02:21 PM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Charles P - 06-09-2020, 05:57 PM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Steve Jones - 06-09-2020, 06:51 PM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Charles P - 06-09-2020, 07:25 PM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Duncan Grimmond - 06-09-2020, 07:50 PM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Duncan Grimmond - 07-09-2020, 08:40 AM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Bob Culver - 07-09-2020, 09:02 AM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Duncan Grimmond - 07-09-2020, 12:52 PM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Reckless Rat - 07-09-2020, 01:16 PM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Stuart Giles - 07-09-2020, 01:18 PM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Renaud - 07-09-2020, 01:22 PM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Alan - 07-09-2020, 01:41 PM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Duncan Grimmond - 07-09-2020, 02:06 PM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Reckless Rat - 07-09-2020, 02:44 PM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Duncan Grimmond - 07-09-2020, 04:08 PM
RE: Query about gearing... - by andrew34ruby - 07-09-2020, 04:19 PM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Reckless Rat - 07-09-2020, 04:23 PM
RE: Query about gearing... - by andrew34ruby - 07-09-2020, 04:41 PM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Duncan Grimmond - 07-09-2020, 05:28 PM
RE: Query about gearing... - by andrew34ruby - 07-09-2020, 05:54 PM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Duncan Grimmond - 07-09-2020, 05:56 PM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Malcolm Parker - 07-09-2020, 09:46 PM
RE: Query about gearing... - by andrew34ruby - 08-09-2020, 08:40 AM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Malcolm Parker - 08-09-2020, 10:52 AM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Bob Culver - 08-09-2020, 11:27 AM
RE: Query about gearing... - by andrew34ruby - 09-09-2020, 01:55 PM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Malcolm Parker - 09-09-2020, 02:27 PM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Bob Culver - 09-09-2020, 09:15 PM
RE: Query about gearing... - by andrew34ruby - 09-09-2020, 09:31 PM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Ian Williams - 10-09-2020, 08:59 PM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Spex - 10-09-2020, 09:08 PM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Chris KC - 10-09-2020, 10:36 PM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Malcolm Parker - 11-09-2020, 08:26 AM
RE: Query about gearing... - by andrew34ruby - 11-09-2020, 09:27 AM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Bob Culver - 11-09-2020, 09:35 AM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Colin Reed - 11-09-2020, 10:20 AM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Renaud - 11-09-2020, 11:00 AM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Chris KC - 11-09-2020, 12:07 PM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Howard Wright - 11-09-2020, 01:00 PM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Howard Wright - 11-09-2020, 07:48 PM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Ian Williams - 11-09-2020, 10:08 PM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Alan - 11-09-2020, 10:17 PM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Colin Reed - 12-09-2020, 10:05 AM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Bob Culver - 12-09-2020, 11:23 AM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Tod - 12-09-2020, 02:26 PM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Bob Culver - 13-09-2020, 02:53 AM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Alan - 13-09-2020, 10:13 AM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Mike Costigan - 13-09-2020, 10:52 AM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Ivangardiner - 13-09-2020, 11:31 AM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Duncan Grimmond - 13-09-2020, 12:21 PM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Steve Jones - 13-09-2020, 01:43 PM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Nick Lettington - 14-09-2020, 08:43 AM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Howard Wright - 14-09-2020, 02:11 PM
RE: Query about gearing... - by andrew34ruby - 17-09-2020, 06:32 PM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Ian Williams - 18-09-2020, 03:56 AM
RE: Query about gearing... - by andrew34ruby - 18-09-2020, 09:34 AM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Howard Wright - 18-09-2020, 10:08 AM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Nick Turley - 18-09-2020, 10:10 AM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Parazine - 18-09-2020, 10:23 AM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Renaud - 18-09-2020, 10:55 AM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Bob Culver - 18-09-2020, 11:08 AM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Malcolm Parker - 18-09-2020, 11:22 AM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Tony Press - 18-09-2020, 11:18 PM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Duncan Grimmond - 19-09-2020, 10:21 AM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Malcolm Parker - 19-09-2020, 12:18 PM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Dave Wortley - 19-09-2020, 12:56 PM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Steve Jones - 19-09-2020, 02:50 PM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Duncan Grimmond - 20-09-2020, 03:40 PM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Duncan Grimmond - 22-09-2020, 08:07 AM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Malcolm Parker - 22-09-2020, 08:43 AM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Renaud - 22-09-2020, 08:44 AM
RE: Query about gearing... - by JonE - 22-09-2020, 08:47 AM
RE: Query about gearing... - by andrew34ruby - 22-09-2020, 09:43 AM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Steve Jones - 22-09-2020, 11:13 AM
RE: Query about gearing... - by Nick Turley - 22-09-2020, 12:31 PM

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