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Electric vehicles
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Hi Everyone,
I am surprised at the generally negative responses to this topic.
My wife was given a new Nissan Leaf two years ago by her Aunt who was dependent on her for daily care and transport.
Previous to this her 2.3 litre Mazda was used for this at a cost of $50 (25 pounds ) per week for petrol.
The Leaf is charged at 15 amps from a dedicated circuit on our front verandah. It costs around $1-50 to charge at night taking 6 hours. It will  go 200 kilometers on this charge which gets her to work and back for a week.
We are nearly 200 pounds better off per month or 2400 per year.
It is very pleasant to drive being almost silent, has wonderful acceleration and  goes 30% further in heavy traffic/Jams.
We have done virtually no maintenance on it in two years /37000 kms.
When we first got it we worried about range but have never run out of charge ,it goes about as far on a 
 charge as my chummy on a full tank.
OK it may have taken some carbon credits to make but in use it is not causing any pollution in the city environment and is not using any imported fuel which is good for the economy as well as for the health of the pedestrians and cyclists using the roads.
All of our electricity is from hydro and wind  generation so there is  no fossil fuel used to charge it. At present there is no extra road tax and registration is the around 55 pounds per year and insurance 125.
The battery will probably last another 5 years so the car will have done 250,000 kms by then.
 The electric drive will still be servicable by then as the motor is brushless 3phase through an inverter. A new battery will cost about 3000 pounds or less as they are getting cheaper. The rest of the car will still be sound by then as there is no gearbox  etc to wear out. Brake pads last a very long time as the electric motor regenerates power and aids the braking  effort through the transmission.
Dont get me wrong these cars are not for everyone but as a city commuter they have much to offer. We have a large property with offroad parking and space to charge. We never fast charge, in America 80% of E vehicles charge at home ,it is so much cheaper (75%) but slower.
People living in urban areas without parking cannot do this easily.I very much doubt that more than 20% of our cars will be electric in N Z in 10 years time. We have driven from Wellington to Auckland in it and charged it 5 times on the way. So its not for that sort of use unless you can afford a Tesla and the time to charge it to get there in time.
I still drive a petrol Honda CRV and of course the  28 Top Hat which I love also.
When the Petrol cars first arrived those with (7?) horses also were negative about their impact. I agree that Hydrogen would be great but extremely expensive to establish and reticulate in a country with difficult terrain and only 5 million inhabitants.
I think electric cars are here to stay in the forseeible future here in New Zealand.
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Electric vehicles - by Austin in the Shed - 13-10-2019, 10:00 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by andrew34ruby - 13-10-2019, 10:10 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Tony Press - 13-10-2019, 10:45 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Tony Griffiths - 13-10-2019, 11:57 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Rick F - 14-10-2019, 12:30 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Tony Press - 14-10-2019, 12:40 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Bob Culver - 14-10-2019, 01:06 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Marcus Ling - 14-10-2019, 05:43 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Tony Press - 14-10-2019, 06:36 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Marcus Ling - 14-10-2019, 07:01 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Nick Salmon - 14-10-2019, 07:15 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Bob Culver - 14-10-2019, 07:30 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Marcus Ling - 14-10-2019, 07:46 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Andy Bennett - 14-10-2019, 07:47 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Derek Sheldon - 14-10-2019, 07:49 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Howard Wright - 14-10-2019, 08:18 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Reckless Rat - 14-10-2019, 08:20 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Dave Mann - 14-10-2019, 09:09 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Alan - 14-10-2019, 09:14 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Derek Sheldon - 14-10-2019, 09:38 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Bruce Nicholls - 14-10-2019, 09:41 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Andy Bennett - 14-10-2019, 09:56 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Robert Leigh - 14-10-2019, 11:17 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Austin in the Shed - 14-10-2019, 11:19 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Ruairidh Dunford - 14-10-2019, 11:45 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by stuartu - 14-10-2019, 12:55 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Dave Wortley - 14-10-2019, 01:06 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by spannerman - 14-10-2019, 04:26 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Tod - 14-10-2019, 08:20 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Ruairidh Dunford - 14-10-2019, 08:40 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Tod - 14-10-2019, 09:02 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Alan - 14-10-2019, 09:04 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Parazine - 14-10-2019, 09:21 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Ruairidh Dunford - 14-10-2019, 09:34 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Austin in the Shed - 14-10-2019, 10:00 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Marcus Ling - 14-10-2019, 10:30 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Bob Culver - 14-10-2019, 11:05 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by andrew34ruby - 14-10-2019, 11:13 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Tony Griffiths - 14-10-2019, 11:19 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Phil Kingdom - 15-10-2019, 12:43 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Steve Hainsworth - 15-10-2019, 07:29 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Ian Williams - 15-10-2019, 07:56 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Mike Costigan - 15-10-2019, 08:41 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Steve Hainsworth - 15-10-2019, 09:37 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Bruce Nicholls - 15-10-2019, 10:57 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Ruairidh Dunford - 15-10-2019, 11:13 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Reckless Rat - 15-10-2019, 11:54 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by AustinWood - 15-10-2019, 12:10 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Nick Salmon - 15-10-2019, 12:13 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Tony Griffiths - 15-10-2019, 12:24 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Ruairidh Dunford - 15-10-2019, 12:58 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Austin in the Shed - 15-10-2019, 01:16 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Jack in the Box - 15-10-2019, 01:29 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by JonE - 15-10-2019, 01:35 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Mr Pharmacist - 15-10-2019, 05:00 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by andrew34ruby - 15-10-2019, 05:38 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by spannerman - 15-10-2019, 06:15 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Ian Williams - 15-10-2019, 09:29 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Marcus Ling - 15-10-2019, 10:34 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Bob Culver - 16-10-2019, 05:35 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Ian Williams - 16-10-2019, 06:32 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Bob Culver - 16-10-2019, 07:43 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Nick Salmon - 22-10-2019, 07:33 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Ruairidh Dunford - 22-10-2019, 07:38 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Dave Wortley - 22-10-2019, 09:26 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Tony Griffiths - 22-10-2019, 04:22 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Hugh Barnes - 22-10-2019, 07:13 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Tony Griffiths - 22-10-2019, 10:08 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Jason Franzone - 22-10-2019, 10:49 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Tony Griffiths - 23-10-2019, 11:00 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Reckless Rat - 23-10-2019, 11:07 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Tony Griffiths - 23-10-2019, 01:06 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Alan - 23-10-2019, 03:10 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Bruce Nicholls - 24-10-2019, 09:53 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Reckless Rat - 24-10-2019, 10:22 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Bruce Nicholls - 24-10-2019, 10:26 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Austin in the Shed - 24-10-2019, 01:15 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by AllAlloyCup - 24-10-2019, 07:44 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Tony Press - 24-10-2019, 10:41 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by AllAlloyCup - 25-10-2019, 08:42 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Tony Press - 25-10-2019, 11:43 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Dave Wortley - 26-10-2019, 11:00 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Tony Griffiths - 26-10-2019, 11:17 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by AllAlloyCup - 26-10-2019, 06:51 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Alan - 26-10-2019, 09:28 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Andy Bennett - 27-10-2019, 08:40 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Austin Carr - 27-10-2019, 09:39 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by John Mason - 27-10-2019, 10:03 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Alan - 27-10-2019, 10:38 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Ivor Hawkins - 27-10-2019, 11:34 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by John Mason - 27-10-2019, 11:58 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by David.H - 27-10-2019, 11:37 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Tony Griffiths - 28-10-2019, 12:51 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Alan - 28-10-2019, 08:55 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Dave Mann - 28-10-2019, 08:58 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Reckless Rat - 28-10-2019, 09:26 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Colin Reed - 28-10-2019, 10:03 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Austin in the Shed - 28-10-2019, 11:53 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Tony Griffiths - 29-10-2019, 01:31 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Andy Bennett - 29-10-2019, 08:48 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Reckless Rat - 29-10-2019, 09:07 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Bruce Nicholls - 29-10-2019, 09:56 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Tony Griffiths - 29-10-2019, 10:58 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Derek Sheldon - 12-11-2019, 08:55 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Nick Salmon - 12-11-2019, 09:37 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Tony Press - 13-11-2019, 12:03 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Henry Harris - 20-11-2019, 08:41 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Tony Griffiths - 21-11-2019, 10:05 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Henry Harris - 22-11-2019, 07:06 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Bruce Nicholls - 22-11-2019, 11:23 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Tony Griffiths - 22-11-2019, 01:37 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Bob Culver - 22-11-2019, 07:56 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Colin Morgan - 31-12-2019, 12:05 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Dave Mann - 31-12-2019, 07:27 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Tony Press - 31-12-2019, 10:07 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Barry Townsend - 01-01-2020, 07:12 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Phil Kingdom - 01-01-2020, 07:46 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Barry Townsend - 01-01-2020, 07:51 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by andrew34ruby - 01-01-2020, 10:37 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Austin in the Shed - 01-01-2020, 11:16 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by goldmountain - 02-07-2020, 08:12 PM

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