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Electric vehicles
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Many years ago I was in business converting cars to CNG in the early 1980s when we had a large discovery of natural gas in NZ and one of the oil crises. The government of the time was on a "Take or Pay" agreement, meaning they had to pay for the gas whether they used it or not. Hence there were a number of other methods used to consume the gas such as a methanol conversion plant (still running) and a Gas to Gasoline plant.

One of the big issues with gas as a vehicle fuel is the problem of adequate storage on vehicles. CNG required a high pressure gas cylinder installed in the boot, they stored at 3000 psi, but only provided about 150km of range, typically.

The other problem with gas fuels is the problem of transportation, they cant hold enough energy in road tankers to make those feasible so there needs to be an extensive pipe network to get it to the filling stations and they need high pressure gas compressors and storage. From memory the energy stored in vehicle Hydrogen Gas Cylinders at 620bar is only abut  one third of the CNG equivalent. So range is likely to be an even bigger issue than E cars.

Unfortunately there is no Silver Bullet, and philosophy cant overcome the physics.
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Electric vehicles - by Austin in the Shed - 13-10-2019, 10:00 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by andrew34ruby - 13-10-2019, 10:10 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Tony Press - 13-10-2019, 10:45 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Tony Griffiths - 13-10-2019, 11:57 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Rick F - 14-10-2019, 12:30 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Tony Press - 14-10-2019, 12:40 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Bob Culver - 14-10-2019, 01:06 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Marcus Ling - 14-10-2019, 05:43 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Tony Press - 14-10-2019, 06:36 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Marcus Ling - 14-10-2019, 07:01 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Nick Salmon - 14-10-2019, 07:15 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Bob Culver - 14-10-2019, 07:30 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Marcus Ling - 14-10-2019, 07:46 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Andy Bennett - 14-10-2019, 07:47 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Derek Sheldon - 14-10-2019, 07:49 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Howard Wright - 14-10-2019, 08:18 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Reckless Rat - 14-10-2019, 08:20 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Dave Mann - 14-10-2019, 09:09 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Alan - 14-10-2019, 09:14 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Derek Sheldon - 14-10-2019, 09:38 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Bruce Nicholls - 14-10-2019, 09:41 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Andy Bennett - 14-10-2019, 09:56 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Robert Leigh - 14-10-2019, 11:17 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Austin in the Shed - 14-10-2019, 11:19 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Ruairidh Dunford - 14-10-2019, 11:45 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by stuartu - 14-10-2019, 12:55 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Dave Wortley - 14-10-2019, 01:06 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by spannerman - 14-10-2019, 04:26 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Tod - 14-10-2019, 08:20 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Ruairidh Dunford - 14-10-2019, 08:40 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Tod - 14-10-2019, 09:02 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Alan - 14-10-2019, 09:04 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Parazine - 14-10-2019, 09:21 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Ruairidh Dunford - 14-10-2019, 09:34 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Austin in the Shed - 14-10-2019, 10:00 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Marcus Ling - 14-10-2019, 10:30 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Bob Culver - 14-10-2019, 11:05 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by andrew34ruby - 14-10-2019, 11:13 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Tony Griffiths - 14-10-2019, 11:19 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Phil Kingdom - 15-10-2019, 12:43 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Steve Hainsworth - 15-10-2019, 07:29 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Ian Williams - 15-10-2019, 07:56 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Mike Costigan - 15-10-2019, 08:41 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Steve Hainsworth - 15-10-2019, 09:37 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Bruce Nicholls - 15-10-2019, 10:57 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Ruairidh Dunford - 15-10-2019, 11:13 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Reckless Rat - 15-10-2019, 11:54 AM
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RE: Electric vehicles - by Nick Salmon - 15-10-2019, 12:13 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Tony Griffiths - 15-10-2019, 12:24 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Ruairidh Dunford - 15-10-2019, 12:58 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Austin in the Shed - 15-10-2019, 01:16 PM
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RE: Electric vehicles - by JonE - 15-10-2019, 01:35 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Mr Pharmacist - 15-10-2019, 05:00 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by andrew34ruby - 15-10-2019, 05:38 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by spannerman - 15-10-2019, 06:15 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Ian Williams - 15-10-2019, 09:29 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Marcus Ling - 15-10-2019, 10:34 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Bob Culver - 16-10-2019, 05:35 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Ian Williams - 16-10-2019, 06:32 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Bob Culver - 16-10-2019, 07:43 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Nick Salmon - 22-10-2019, 07:33 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Ruairidh Dunford - 22-10-2019, 07:38 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Dave Wortley - 22-10-2019, 09:26 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Tony Griffiths - 22-10-2019, 04:22 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Hugh Barnes - 22-10-2019, 07:13 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Tony Griffiths - 22-10-2019, 10:08 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Jason Franzone - 22-10-2019, 10:49 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Tony Griffiths - 23-10-2019, 11:00 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Reckless Rat - 23-10-2019, 11:07 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Tony Griffiths - 23-10-2019, 01:06 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Alan - 23-10-2019, 03:10 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Bruce Nicholls - 24-10-2019, 09:53 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Reckless Rat - 24-10-2019, 10:22 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Bruce Nicholls - 24-10-2019, 10:26 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Austin in the Shed - 24-10-2019, 01:15 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by AllAlloyCup - 24-10-2019, 07:44 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Tony Press - 24-10-2019, 10:41 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by AllAlloyCup - 25-10-2019, 08:42 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Tony Press - 25-10-2019, 11:43 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Dave Wortley - 26-10-2019, 11:00 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Tony Griffiths - 26-10-2019, 11:17 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by AllAlloyCup - 26-10-2019, 06:51 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Alan - 26-10-2019, 09:28 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Andy Bennett - 27-10-2019, 08:40 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Austin Carr - 27-10-2019, 09:39 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by John Mason - 27-10-2019, 10:03 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Alan - 27-10-2019, 10:38 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Ivor Hawkins - 27-10-2019, 11:34 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by John Mason - 27-10-2019, 11:58 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by David.H - 27-10-2019, 11:37 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Tony Griffiths - 28-10-2019, 12:51 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Alan - 28-10-2019, 08:55 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Dave Mann - 28-10-2019, 08:58 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Reckless Rat - 28-10-2019, 09:26 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Colin Reed - 28-10-2019, 10:03 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Austin in the Shed - 28-10-2019, 11:53 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Tony Griffiths - 29-10-2019, 01:31 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Andy Bennett - 29-10-2019, 08:48 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Reckless Rat - 29-10-2019, 09:07 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Bruce Nicholls - 29-10-2019, 09:56 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Tony Griffiths - 29-10-2019, 10:58 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Derek Sheldon - 12-11-2019, 08:55 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Nick Salmon - 12-11-2019, 09:37 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Tony Press - 13-11-2019, 12:03 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Henry Harris - 20-11-2019, 08:41 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Tony Griffiths - 21-11-2019, 10:05 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Henry Harris - 22-11-2019, 07:06 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Bruce Nicholls - 22-11-2019, 11:23 AM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Tony Griffiths - 22-11-2019, 01:37 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Bob Culver - 22-11-2019, 07:56 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Colin Morgan - 31-12-2019, 12:05 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Dave Mann - 31-12-2019, 07:27 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Tony Press - 31-12-2019, 10:07 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Barry Townsend - 01-01-2020, 07:12 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Phil Kingdom - 01-01-2020, 07:46 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Barry Townsend - 01-01-2020, 07:51 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by andrew34ruby - 01-01-2020, 10:37 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by Austin in the Shed - 01-01-2020, 11:16 PM
RE: Electric vehicles - by goldmountain - 02-07-2020, 08:12 PM

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