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Cheap MAP Gas / Propane Torch - Any Recommendations - John P - 14-11-2022
Hi,
Over the winter I am hoping to finally make a proper folding screen for my Ulsteroid to replace the existing home made aero screens.
I'm assuming I will have to silver solder this both for strength and also so that it can be plated. (That being said I don't actually know if platers could plate over soft solder if it's the more modern lead free type).
To do this I will need to get myself a new blow torch and I think a MAP gas or possibly propane torch would be required to do the job.
I appreciate that the well known brands such as Rothenberger, Monument and Bernzomatic are probably what I should choose but as it's only likely to be used for this one project I'm tempted by some of the look alike Chinese torches on e-bay or OnBuy such as:-
https://www.onbuy.com/gb/gas-torch-mapp-blow-torch-map-propane-gas-solderding-brazing-plumbers~c18170~p48793105/?ag_qid=b4a0b484b13feecf34a2335b060e8878&ag_idx=frontend_product_search_2000
Obviously I want something which is safe and had just about talked myself out of one of the e-bay / OnBuy offerings when I found out the even the well known brands are apparently made in China or Taiwan.
So, has anyone actually bought a Chinese blow torch and was it any good?
John.
RE: Cheap MAP Gas / Propane Torch - Any Recommendations - Duncan Grimmond - 14-11-2022
I have had a Rothenberger torch for over 30 years. Eventually it failed in the piezo ignition department and I bought a cheapo one thinking it would do. I still have it but only as a back-up for the new Rothenberger I bought a year later. Better quality, better balance well made and easier to use.
At least now, if anyone asks if they can borrow a torch for some heating I can lend them that one instead of saying "I don't lend tools, EVER"
I'm sure I don't need to tell you that in silver soldering, fit and cleanliness are essential... of the join that is, you are allowed to be an unfit dirty old man if you so wish!
RE: Cheap MAP Gas / Propane Torch - Any Recommendations - Derek Sheldon - 14-11-2022
I have used this kit extensively including making two windscreens, one for each of my Rosengarts
RE: Cheap MAP Gas / Propane Torch - Any Recommendations - Howard Wright - 16-11-2022
Hi John
I’ve used a set like the one Derek has suggested. However if you end up doing a lot of brazing/ silver soldering then you will use up oxygen bottles very fast and they are not cheap. I splashed out and bought a set like this
https://www.ac-one.co.uk/flametech-pro-14416-p.asp?gclid=CjwKCAiAjs2bBhACEiwALTBWZZGjieGppik2USWCyM6mb1C3HoSU6SV0c3emqr9pnu1Qcz5iFxFoERoC2tgQAvD_BwE
Not cheap but the gas lasts for ages and you can refill the oxygen. It is also a lot more powerful and very useful for hot bending some fairly meaty steel sections
.Cheers
Howard
RE: Cheap MAP Gas / Propane Torch - Any Recommendations - Charles P - 16-11-2022
For brazing and silver soldering a redundant oxy/acetylene kit running on oxy/propane (acetylene is the expensive gas) will be much cheaper to run over time. You'll need a propane regulator to replace the acetylene one, but you do escape the painful cost of the little bottles that always seem to run out at the wrong moment.
You'll wonder how you managed without it.
Charles
RE: Cheap MAP Gas / Propane Torch - Any Recommendations - Jamie - 16-11-2022
I used to do a lot of brazing of large, copper work and used propane with air from a compressor. I made the torch from an old oxy- acetylene torch. It workedwell. I can post pictures if anyone is interested.
Regards,
Jamie.