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Hartford rear dampers - Tony Betts - 09-02-2021

Hi all.

Can anyone help with how the hartford rear dampers go together.

Been through the source book, but it only shows an exploded view of the fronts.

Help much appreciated.

Tony.

RE: Hartford rear dampers - Bob Olive - 10-02-2021

This MIGHT be useful...  You Tube Andre Hartford rear dampers. Good luck.

RE: Hartford rear dampers - Tony Press - 11-02-2021

Any use ?


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RE: Hartford rear dampers - Tony Betts - 11-02-2021

Thanks both.

I tralled YouTube, but only found how to put riley 9s together.

Thanks tony, but again they are not austin 7.

I have a good idea from a small picture in the source book. But can't be sure were the location disca for the friction discs go. And did they use brass discs on the rear.

Thanks tony.

RE: Hartford rear dampers - Hugh Barnes - 11-02-2021

Tony, do you know Graham Brown?

http://www.vintageandclassicshockabsorbers.co.uk/home/4569744260

Might he be able to advise?

RE: Hartford rear dampers - Tony Betts - 11-02-2021

hi hugh,

yes, nice bloke. nice company.

they dont do the austin 7 hartfords though.

i know there would be little call for them for him.

im taking the chance wilst there are little chances of autojumbles and auctions coming up. to put some of the HUGE number of unfinished spares projects together i have.

thanks tony.

RE: Hartford rear dampers - Tony Betts - 11-02-2021

Thank you, to you guys trying to help.

I think I've worked it out, but still dont know if I should have brass discs.

I didnt want to tackle this job yet, but let me show you what I'm up against.

The only thing I could think is there must be a bodge here.

   
Yes I knew these were not original, and I knew the hartford bushes were bigger.

But it looks like the last owner filed the original holes, to fit the brass plates.

Now I'm left with the mess, I wish they wouldn't.

However the cutout for the peg is still there, wich shows the locator plates fit both sides on the arms.

Together with a small pic showing the arms are on the Inside of the chassis plate. I'm almost there.

   
Here You can see the gap around the bolt.

   
So this is the plate and peg bolt fitted from the outside of the chassis plate.

   
Dome plate and peg bolt.

   

RE: Hartford rear dampers - David Cochrane - 11-02-2021

Here are some photos - hope they help. Please let me know if you would like me to dismantle one of them and take some more photos. I don't remember seeing any brass discs in them, and I couldn't see any when I was peering at it just now. The centre bushes were lignum vitae which I think is a sort of wood, although we'd probably use nylon these days.

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RE: Hartford rear dampers - Tony Betts - 11-02-2021

thank you david,

that confirms ive got them the right way.

the wonder of the brass discs, is the friction disc that is shrouded. the shroud is very close to touching the arm. even with new friction discs. your pics show the same thing.

i wondered if it had brass discs fitted, the discs would make that gap a bit bigger? if you see what i mean.

the fronts are the same without brass discs.

ill stick with the only thing ive sean, and not use the brass discs.

thanks tony.

RE: Hartford rear dampers - David Cochrane - 11-02-2021

As far as I have been able to discover, the brass discs were only fitted to the (Austin) shock absorbers from 1928 onwards. Graham Brown told me the original friction discs were oiled beechwood. I think he used to do the printed discs which make them look quite smart, but I don't know if any of the ones listed here would suit ours: http://www.vintageandclassicshockabsorbers.co.uk/hartford-name-discs/4578205129
Vintage Supplies do them as well.