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Period wire ties - Erich - 27-03-2018
I've got modern plastic wire ties on my car. Does anyone know what was used in period? Was it cloth tape over the armoured wiring, or something else? I'll note my Velocettes used John Bull rubber ties, and somewhere in my noodle, I remember a thin aluminum type that slipped through a slot on the other end and was bent over.
Erich in still not spring Seattle
RE: Period wire ties - NickB - 27-03-2018
Hi Erich,
Hope these photos help. Mostly half round metal clips with a bolt through a tab on one side, and Bakelite bridges up the front of the bulkhead.
Metal clips are readily available from vintage auto suppliers.
Nick
RE: Period wire ties - Erich - 27-03-2018
Hi Nick,
Thank you. I have the bridges, and will order the half round metal clips. I had thought there might be some free floating ties that would bundle wires together but not attach to any part of the car.
Best,
Erich
RE: Period wire ties - JonE - 27-03-2018
Nick's is 1933 - slightly later cars had black leather loom clips (doubled over and bolted on one side only) in the bulkhead area only.
What period are you re-creating to? Look in the Rinsey Mills book for pics of James Anderson's Ulster for instance.
RE: Period wire ties - Dave Wortley - 27-03-2018
Erich,
Your car is a 1930s Ulster type like mine. I used Chris Goulds book "how to build a 1930 Ulster replica "which shows the 3 bakelite saddles on the top face of the firewall. These are available from one of the usual A7 suppliers. I made mine out of an old black lavatory seat. The P clips are steel and are on the engine compartment valances,both nearside and offside. These are also available to buy but if not are dead easy to make. I attached mine to the valances with 2BA screws. Afraid I used plastic wire ties at places not immediately visible.
RE: Period wire ties - Reckless Rat - 27-03-2018
Afraid I used plastic wire ties at places not immediately visible.
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RE: Period wire ties - Austin Carr - 27-03-2018
Search "vintage motorcycle cable ties" and you will find rubber and aluminium ones in the images that be suitable for you.
RE: Period wire ties - bystander - 27-03-2018
(27-03-2018, 03:08 PM)Dave Wortley Wrote: Erich,
Your car is a 1930s Ulster type like mine. I used Chris Goulds book "how to build a 1930 Ulster replica "which shows the 3 bakelite saddles on the top face of the firewall. These are available from one of the usual A7 suppliers. I made mine out of an old black lavatory seat. The P clips are steel and are on the engine compartment valances,both nearside and offside. These are also available to buy but if not are dead easy to make. I attached mine to the valances with 2BA screws. Afraid I used plastic wire ties at places not immediately visible.
bakelite saddles made from an old black lavatory seat I can live with, but the thought of P clips is making my eyes water!
RE: Period wire ties - Reckless Rat - 28-03-2018
I can see at least three rusty p clips on that bulkhead picture so are they original?
RE: Period wire ties - Ruairidh Dunford - 28-03-2018
In my experience those clips were used across the LWB range Reckers.