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RE: Modern lip seals - Biddlecombe - 31-01-2019

Thank you all. Much appreciated.


RE: Modern lip seals - Ruairidh Dunford - 31-01-2019

Heavy axles have a different sized seals - two sizes if I remember correctly - to a standard sized axle.


RE: Modern lip seals - Biddlecombe - 31-01-2019

I don't want to sound dim, but I've never used Molyslip and one look at their website shows blinking 'undreds of different products? Which one am I after?


RE: Modern lip seals - Ruairidh Dunford - 31-01-2019

Peter, if it helps, I simply use grease and have done for many years. It works perfectly in this application, so far.


RE: Modern lip seals - Biddlecombe - 31-01-2019

(31-01-2019, 12:27 PM)Ruairidh Dunford Wrote: Peter, if it helps, I simply use grease and have done for many years.  It works perfectly in this application, so far.

Cool Ta Ruairidh.


RE: Modern lip seals - Chris KC - 31-01-2019

(31-01-2019, 11:57 AM)Dennis Nicholas Wrote:
(30-01-2019, 03:14 PM)Ruairidh Dunford Wrote: There are two types available.

One dispenses with the cup, washer and circlip - it it glued in place.

The other simply presses inside the cup, in place of the felt seal.

Can't remember which of the sizes I used but in my "heavy" axle, July 1937 onwards, there was what appeared to be a ring pressed into the casting and the seal pressed into that.

A TIP....one of our Scimitar club knowledgable engineering developers tips that when fitting get a rag soaked with Molyslip and rub well into the lip area.  This goes for any seal in any position (even seals round disk break pistons).

Dennis

Careful please Dennis, as Biddlecombe points out, there are numerous 'Molyslip' products.
Possibly your chap was referring to Molyslip rubber grease? Which at least may do no harm.
Modern brake caliper piston seals are generally made of EPDM rubber, which will fail prematurely if exposed to products containing mineral oil.


RE: Modern lip seals - Dennis Nicholas - 31-01-2019

(31-01-2019, 03:21 PM)Chris KC Wrote:
(31-01-2019, 11:57 AM)Dennis Nicholas Wrote:
(30-01-2019, 03:14 PM)Ruairidh Dunford Wrote: There are two types available.

One dispenses with the cup, washer and circlip - it it glued in place.

The other simply presses inside the cup, in place of the felt seal.

Can't remember which of the sizes I used but in my "heavy" axle, July 1937 onwards, there was what appeared to be a ring pressed into the casting and the seal pressed into that.

A TIP....one of our Scimitar club knowledgable engineering developers tips that when fitting get a rag soaked with Molyslip and rub well into the lip area.  This goes for any seal in any position (even seals round disk break pistons).

Dennis

Careful please Dennis, as Biddlecombe points out, there are numerous 'Molyslip' products.
Possibly your chap was referring to Molyslip rubber grease? Which at least may do no harm.
Modern brake caliper piston seals are generally made of EPDM rubber, which will fail prematurely if exposed to products containing mineral oil.

OK Chris.  A case here of using info from quite a while ago and using "familiar" shortened terminology.
I will open a new subject entitled MOLY - molybdenum disulphide and attach the notes I have. These may help to give a clearer picture.
Sadly Alan passed away  a few years ago.

Dennis


RE: Modern lip seals - Robin Boyce - 02-02-2019

(31-01-2019, 06:55 PM)Dennis Nicholas Wrote:
(31-01-2019, 03:21 PM)Chris KC Wrote:
(31-01-2019, 11:57 AM)Dennis Nicholas Wrote:
(30-01-2019, 03:14 PM)Ruairidh Dunford Wrote: There are two types available.

One dispenses with the cup, washer and circlip - it it glued in place.

The other simply presses inside the cup, in place of the felt seal.

Can't remember which of the sizes I used but in my "heavy" axle, July 1937 onwards, there was what appeared to be a ring pressed into the casting and the seal pressed into that.

A TIP....one of our Scimitar club knowledgable engineering developers tips that when fitting get a rag soaked with Molyslip and rub well into the lip area.  This goes for any seal in any position (even seals round disk break pistons).

Dennis

Careful please Dennis, as Biddlecombe points out, there are numerous 'Molyslip' products.
Possibly your chap was referring to Molyslip rubber grease? Which at least may do no harm.
Modern brake caliper piston seals are generally made of EPDM rubber, which will fail prematurely if exposed to products containing mineral oil.

OK Chris.  A case here of using info from quite a while ago and using "familiar" shortened terminology.
I will open a new subject entitled MOLY - molybdenum disulphide and attach the notes I have. These may help to give a clearer picture.
Sadly Alan passed away  a few years ago.

Dennis

When fitting lip seals in the wheel hubs, do you retain the felt plate?


RE: Modern lip seals - Ruairidh Dunford - 02-02-2019

I do - they are a spacer as well as protecting the felt.


RE: Modern lip seals - Robin Boyce - 03-02-2019

(02-02-2019, 02:04 PM)Ruairidh Dunford Wrote: I do - they are a spacer as well as protecting the felt.

Thanks Ruairidh